Episode 4

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22nd May 2020

It Wasn't Me

This week in court, the main accused Anwar R. reacted to the accusations against him with a statement that his lawyers read to the court. His defense in short: there was no torture when I was in charge, later others did it, I tried to help but couldn't do more, and then I fled the country.

How did this go down in court and how did the public gallery react to his statement? Listen to Karam and Fritz discuss his lengthy and detailed statement. And get comments from survivors of Branch 251 and their lawyer.

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About the Podcast

Branch 251
Syrian Atrocity Crimes on Trial

Branch 251 takes you to the heart of the world’s first criminal trial dealing with atrocity crimes committed by Syrian officials.

Prosecutors in the German city of Koblenz accuse two alleged henchmen of the Syrian government of crimes against humanity committed at ‘Branch 251’ detention center near Damascus.

Branch 251 gives you a weekly update on the trial. With portraits of the main protagonists. Commentary, analysis, and testimony from the courtroom. Especially from victims and their families looking for justice. But will a German court in a city few people have heard of be able to deliver due process? Or are there too many obstacles looming on the horizon?



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About your hosts

Fritz Streiff

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Fritz is an atrocity crimes and human rights lawyer who has a big problem with global injustice. He is currently based in Paris, France.

International justice is his big passion. Though podcasts follow pretty closely.

Karam Shoumali

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Karam Shoumali is a multi-lingual Syrian researcher, journalist, and expert on Syrian and Kurdish politics and the Syrian diaspora. Born and raised in Syria, He has played a major role in The New York Times’ coverage of the Syrian war and the resulting refugee crisis in Europe and Germany.